[Box Backup-dev] Hello all - win32 client

Stuart Sanders boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk
Sat Sep 9 13:53:07 BST 2006


I stand corrected.

The news I had read when I first heard that VSE was going to be released
stated that it would be restricted.  

The FAQ clearly states that this is not the case anymore, and it makes
sense from a marketing point of view to not have restrictions to limit
people using free open source tools.

Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrei <andrei at soft-dev.com>
To: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:03:58 +0300
Subject: Re: [Box Backup-dev] Hello all - win32 client

> Hello,
> 
> I'm somewhat confused by your statement...
> 
> From the FAQ:
> 
>     "4. Can I use Express Editions for commercial use?
> 
>     Yes, there are no licensing restrictions for applications built
> using the Express Editions."
> 
> http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2006/04/19/579529.aspx
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei
> 
> On 7/21/06, Stuart Sanders <stuart at bitshk.com> wrote:
> > The "free" version of VS 2005 (ie VS Express) has a non-distributable
> license.
> >
> > So to legally distribute anything he compiles he would need to pay
> for Visual Studio.
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: boxbackup-dev-admin at fluffy.co.uk
> > > [mailto:boxbackup-dev-admin at fluffy.co.uk] On Behalf Of Nick Knight
> > > Sent: Friday, 21 July 2006 4:40 PM
> > > To: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk
> > > Subject: RE: [Box Backup-dev] Hello all - win32 client
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Chris,
> > >
> > > This is probably leads to the need for support two platforms!
> > > You can't
> > > remove personal opinion! Not sure why you cannot distribute
> binaries
> > > produced by MSVC?
> > >
> > > In this day and age 2GB files are not uncommon, so it needs doing -
> I
> > > will have a look and assess it.
> > >
> > > Still trying to compile though and it barfs on no
> > > BoxVersion.h, where is
> > > this supposed to be or got from.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: boxbackup-dev-admin at fluffy.co.uk
> > > [mailto:boxbackup-dev-admin at fluffy.co.uk] On Behalf Of Chris Wilson
> > > Sent: 21 July 2006 09:32
> > > To: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk
> > > Subject: RE: [Box Backup-dev] Hello all - win32 client
> > >
> > > Hi Nick,
> > >
> > > > Sorry Chris, I am with Gary, the Microsoft devel environment (I
> use
> > > > 2003) its toolset is pretty good for debugging, I can't
> > > comment on the
> > > > inteli-sense in 2005 but I work on 2003.
> > >
> > > Sorry Nick, I am with GCC, because I can distribute the resulting
> > > binaries. If I developed with Visual Studio and then distributed
> > > untested
> > > MinGW binaries, what would happen? :-)
> > >
> > > > Also in my humble view, Microsoft wrote the compiler, libraries
> and
> > > OS,
> > > > so will they not work better together?
> > >
> > > But they did not write Box Backup, so perhaps they will not work
> well
> > > together? ;-)
> > >
> > > Box has always been developed (on other platforms) using gcc.
> > >
> > > > In fact I would go as far to say that in my days as an embedded
> > > software
> > > > engineer, we always wrote for Microsoft ide, then port to
> > > the platform
> > > > which would have much faster development cycles!
> > >
> > > > 1. Large file support - verify it is all working
> > >
> > > It definitely is not. The POSIX APIs used by Box on Windows do not
> > > support
> > > files over 2 GB, because they don't have a 64-bit file offset.
> > >
> > > The problem, unfortunately, is to replace ALL the POSIX APIs with
> > > emulated
> > > replacements using the Windows APi. That will not be easy.
> > >
> > > > 3. Look at the possibility of Shadow Copy, it looks quite
> > > tricky so no
> > > > promises! But this looks much needed for the likes of backing up
> > > > Exchange
> > >
> > > This will be the first major problem for MinGW - the VSS API is cl
> > >
> > > > The problem without shadow copy and trying to backup exchange (or
> > > > similar - point 3 shadow copy) is you have to back an
> intermediary
> > > file
> > > > using ntbackup - or just pulling out the database with exchange
> > > > shutdown, but the problem with this is the id of the file
> > > changes so I
> > > > believe box treats it as a new file so doesn't even try to diff??
> > >
> > > Box will try to diff if a file is replaced by another with the same
> > > name,
> > > as well as the contents of a file changing. As far as I know,
> > > the ID is
> > > only used to track renamed files.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Chris.
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