From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Tue Oct 2 19:39:21 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (Chris Wilson) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:39:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Re: [Box Backup] Re: Block Sizes and Diffing In-Reply-To: References: <20070926110004.15419.10928.Mailman@love.warhead.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Ben, On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Ben Summers wrote: > Consider a 128k text file which uses 4k blocks. Insert a character > somewhere in the middle of a block, then back it up again. You've now > got a gap which isn't covered by any of the existing blocks, and it's > 4097 bytes long. How can a non-standard block size be avoided without > bandwidth inefficiency or knowledge of the key on the server side? What > do you do when it gets lots of little inserts over hundreds of backup > runs? > > Benefits have costs. Tradeoffs have to be made. OK, thanks for the explanation. I didn't realise the block scanning algorithm was clever enough to deal with this case :-) How about reducing the number of re-reads by computing checksums of all blocks at all sizes with a single pass? Cheers, Chris. -- _____ __ _ \ __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software | From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Tue Oct 2 22:44:57 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (Chris Wilson) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:44:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Re: 0.11rc1 release in Trac? In-Reply-To: <20070927132357.GF72212@netinertia.co.uk> References: <46FB9B77.30303@hickinbottom.com> <20070927132357.GF72212@netinertia.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi James and Stuart, On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, James O'Gorman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 01:00:55PM +0100, Stuart Hickinbottom wrote: >> James, in getting ready for a 0.11 test/release process would it be >> possible for you to add a "0.11rc1" version tag to Trac? >> >> I'm currently getting the wiki pages sorted out for that (beta) release. >> >> No big rush - I think we're a little way off yet. > > I can, as can Ben, Martin and Chris, however do we want to create tags > for each RC? It'd be nice to run this past everyone, so I've copied the > -dev list on this. I'd say so, yes. I hope there won't be too many release candidates :-) I've added 0.11rc1. Cheers, Chris. -- _____ __ _ \ __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software | From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Mon Oct 8 16:19:02 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?N=E9stor_Arocha_Rodr=EDguez?=) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:19:02 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup-dev] New mailing list member Message-ID: ------=_Part_40476_11277677.1191856742245 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40477_25637958.1191856742246" ------=_Part_40477_25637958.1191856742246 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everybody, I'm working at a small sized company located in Madrid (Spain). We want to offer backup services to our customers, preferably open source solutions. Although we haven't started to offer backup service yet, I'm currently studying boxbackup source code, and I have found some incoherences in some comments (I'm not sure that those commentaries are really erroneous). Anyway, I hope I can help in the future. Nestor. ------=_Part_40477_25637958.1191856742246 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everybody,
I'm working at a small sized company located in Madrid (Spain). We want to offer backup services to our customers, preferably open source solutions.
Although we haven't started to offer backup service yet, I'm currently studying boxbackup source code, and I have found some incoherences in some comments (I'm not sure that those commentaries are really erroneous). Anyway, I hope I can help in the future.

Nestor.
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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---128931150-2003010514-1191877752=:16742 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi Nestor, On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, N=E9stor Arocha Rodr=EDguez wrote: > Hi everybody, > I'm working at a small sized company located in Madrid (Spain). We want t= o > offer backup services to our customers, preferably open source solutions. > Although we haven't started to offer backup service yet, I'm currently > studying boxbackup source code, and I have found some incoherences in som= e > comments (I'm not sure that those commentaries are really erroneous). > Anyway, I hope I can help in the future. Thanks! I think you're absolutely correct. I will apply your patch as soon= =20 as our server is back up. Cheers, Chris. --=20 _____ __ _ \ __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software | ---128931150-2003010514-1191877752=:16742-- From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Tue Oct 9 00:31:00 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (Chris Wilson) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 00:31:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Box Backup-dev] New mailing list member In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---128931150-1523186906-1191886140=:16742 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi Nestor, On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Chris Wilson wrote: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, N=E9stor Arocha Rodr=EDguez wrote: > >> Hi everybody, >> I'm working at a small sized company located in Madrid (Spain). We want= to >> offer backup services to our customers, preferably open source solution= s. >> Although we haven't started to offer backup service yet, I'm currently >> studying boxbackup source code, and I have found some incoherences in s= ome >> comments (I'm not sure that those commentaries are really erroneous). >> Anyway, I hope I can help in the future. > > Thanks! I think you're absolutely correct. I will apply your patch as soo= n as=20 > our server is back up. Committed to trunk, thanks again and welcome to the team :-) Cheers, Chris. --=20 _____ __ _ \ __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software | ---128931150-1523186906-1191886140=:16742-- From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Tue Oct 9 07:42:17 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (James O'Gorman) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:42:17 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup-dev] New mailing list member In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071009064217.GB6936@netinertia.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:09:12PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote: > Thanks! I think you're absolutely correct. I will apply your patch as soon > as our server is back up. *ahem* Sorry about that. There was a power outage in Telecity RedBus last night. James From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Tue Oct 16 04:30:27 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (scott) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:30:27 +1000 Subject: [Box Backup-dev] adminguide for Chris branch. Message-ID: <003e01c80fa4$e6077240$b21656c0$@com.au> Hi Chris, I would have updated this myself but I do not have access to wiki etc. Anyway. In the adminguide that's part of the source checkout. To use the LogAllFileAccess Option there is no mention that you are required to start the demon with the -v or -V option. (This caught me out for a bit.) Thanks for all your hard work. Scott. From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Tue Oct 16 09:34:51 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (Chris Wilson) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:34:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Box Backup-dev] adminguide for Chris branch. In-Reply-To: <003e01c80fa4$e6077240$b21656c0$@com.au> References: <003e01c80fa4$e6077240$b21656c0$@com.au> Message-ID: Hi Scott, On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, scott wrote: > I would have updated this myself but I do not have access to wiki etc. > Anyway. In the adminguide that's part of the source checkout. To use the > LogAllFileAccess Option there is no mention that you are required to > start the demon with the -v or -V option. (This caught me out for a > bit.) Fixed, thanks! Cheers, Chris. -- _____ __ _ \ __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software | From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Wed Oct 17 14:11:41 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (James O'Gorman) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:11:41 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Re: [Box Backup-commit] COMMIT r1873 - box/trunk/bin/bbackupd/win32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071017131141.GG55134@netinertia.co.uk> On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 01:45:14PM +0100, subversion at fluffy.co.uk wrote: > +# NOTE: If your client does not run a local SMTP server then you MUST > +# edit this script and uncomment the lines near the end, which specify > +# the remote SMTP server to use for sending mail. This comment needs updating, since you asked me to change the script to auto-detect the SMTP server. Now there are a few variables near the top of the script which need to be edited: account = "0a1" from = "boxbackup@" & hostname sendto = "admin at example.com" subjtmpl = "BACKUP PROBLEM on host " & hostname smtpserver = "smtp.example.com" Hopefully those are fairly self-explanatory. Maybe a comment along the lines of: # NOTE: You need to edit the following variables in the script before # enabling it: # # account = "accountnumber" # sendto = "your at email.address" # smtpserver = "your.smtp.server" # # You do not need to set smtpserver if the client has the SMTP Service # installed, the script will connect directly to the SMTP service. James From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Sat Oct 20 23:50:38 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (Chris Wilson) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:50:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Re: [Box Backup-commit] COMMIT r1873 - box/trunk/bin/bbackupd/win32 In-Reply-To: <20071017131141.GG55134@netinertia.co.uk> References: <20071017131141.GG55134@netinertia.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi James, On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, James O'Gorman wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 01:45:14PM +0100, subversion at fluffy.co.uk wrote: >> +# NOTE: If your client does not run a local SMTP server then you MUST >> +# edit this script and uncomment the lines near the end, which specify >> +# the remote SMTP server to use for sending mail. > > This comment needs updating, since you asked me to change the script to > auto-detect the SMTP server. > > Now there are a few variables near the top of the script which need to > be edited: > > account = "0a1" > from = "boxbackup@" & hostname > sendto = "admin at example.com" > subjtmpl = "BACKUP PROBLEM on host " & hostname > smtpserver = "smtp.example.com" > > Hopefully those are fairly self-explanatory. > > Maybe a comment along the lines of: > > # NOTE: You need to edit the following variables in the script before > # enabling it: > # > # account = "accountnumber" > # sendto = "your at email.address" > # smtpserver = "your.smtp.server" > # > # You do not need to set smtpserver if the client has the SMTP Service > # installed, the script will connect directly to the SMTP service. Thanks! Committed. Cheers, Chris. -- _ ___ __ _ / __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software | From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Mon Oct 22 08:28:45 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (James O'Gorman) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:28:45 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Cannot compile Timer.cpp on FreeBSD or Solaris Message-ID: <20071022072844.GP55134@netinertia.co.uk> Chris, Since the merge of your branch to trunk I am unable to build due to errors in Timer.cpp. This is the first time I've tried to build since the last time I made a checkin. [CXX] Timer Timer.cpp: In static member function `static void Timers::Init()': Timer.cpp:42: error: `::sigset' has not been declared Timer.cpp:42: warning: unused variable 'oldHandler' Timer.cpp: In static member function `static void Timers::Cleanup()': Timer.cpp:73: error: `::sigset' has not been declared Timer.cpp:70: warning: unused variable 'result' Timer.cpp:73: warning: unused variable 'oldHandler' Timer.cpp: In static member function `static void Timers::Reschedule()': Timer.cpp:157: error: `::sigset' has not been declared *** Error code 1 James From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Mon Oct 22 18:28:46 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (Chris Wilson) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:28:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Cannot compile Timer.cpp on FreeBSD or Solaris In-Reply-To: <20071022072844.GP55134@netinertia.co.uk> References: <20071022072844.GP55134@netinertia.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi James, On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, James O'Gorman wrote: > Since the merge of your branch to trunk I am unable to build due to > errors in Timer.cpp. This is the first time I've tried to build since > the last time I made a checkin. > > [CXX] Timer > Timer.cpp: In static member function `static void Timers::Init()': > Timer.cpp:42: error: `::sigset' has not been declared > Timer.cpp:42: warning: unused variable 'oldHandler' > Timer.cpp: In static member function `static void Timers::Cleanup()': > Timer.cpp:73: error: `::sigset' has not been declared > Timer.cpp:70: warning: unused variable 'result' > Timer.cpp:73: warning: unused variable 'oldHandler' > Timer.cpp: In static member function `static void Timers::Reschedule()': > Timer.cpp:157: error: `::sigset' has not been declared > *** Error code 1 Thanks for the report. Should be fixed now in trunk. Please could you update and retest? Cheers, Chris. -- _____ __ _ \ __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software | From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Mon Oct 22 20:26:44 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (James O'Gorman) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:26:44 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Cannot compile Timer.cpp on FreeBSD or Solaris In-Reply-To: References: <20071022072844.GP55134@netinertia.co.uk> Message-ID: <20071022192644.GQ55134@netinertia.co.uk> Hi Chris, On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 06:28:46PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote: > Thanks for the report. Should be fixed now in trunk. Please could you update > and retest? Thanks, it compiles now! It still reports this though: Timer.cpp: In static member function `static void Timers::Cleanup()': Timer.cpp:77: warning: unused variable 'result' Similarly in BackupStoreFile.cpp it reports unused variable 'drained' at line 299, but continues without failure. Thanks, James From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Mon Oct 22 21:05:39 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (Chris Wilson) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:05:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Cannot compile Timer.cpp on FreeBSD or Solaris In-Reply-To: <20071022192644.GQ55134@netinertia.co.uk> References: <20071022072844.GP55134@netinertia.co.uk> <20071022192644.GQ55134@netinertia.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi James, On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, James O'Gorman wrote: > It still reports this though: > > Timer.cpp: In static member function `static void Timers::Cleanup()': > Timer.cpp:77: warning: unused variable 'result' That variable is only used in debug mode (in an assertion). Not sure how to suppress that warning cleanly. > Similarly in BackupStoreFile.cpp it reports unused variable 'drained' at > line 299, but continues without failure. That one may be useful for debugging, although there's no assertion on it at the moment. I left a few more "unused" variables around as well, for the moment. Cheers, Chris. -- _____ __ _ \ __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software | From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Mon Oct 22 21:11:44 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (James O'Gorman) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:11:44 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Re: [Box Backup-commit] COMMIT r1900 - box/trunk/lib/common In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071022201144.GR55134@netinertia.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 06:25:42PM +0100, subversion at fluffy.co.uk wrote: > Author: chris > Date: 2007-10-22 18:25:41 +0100 (Mon, 22 Oct 2007) > New Revision: 1900 > > Modified: > box/trunk/lib/common/Timer.cpp > Log: > Bite the bullet and use sigaction() instead, since [1803] shows that > signal() works badly on SuckOS Erm...? From boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk Mon Oct 22 23:13:48 2007 From: boxbackup-dev at fluffy.co.uk (Chris Wilson) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:13:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Box Backup-dev] Re: [Box Backup-commit] COMMIT r1900 - box/trunk/lib/common In-Reply-To: <20071022201144.GR55134@netinertia.co.uk> References: <20071022201144.GR55134@netinertia.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi James, On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, James O'Gorman wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 06:25:42PM +0100, subversion at fluffy.co.uk wrote: >> Author: chris >> Date: 2007-10-22 18:25:41 +0100 (Mon, 22 Oct 2007) >> New Revision: 1900 >> >> Modified: >> box/trunk/lib/common/Timer.cpp >> Log: >> Bite the bullet and use sigaction() instead, since [1803] shows that >> signal() works badly on SuckOS > > Erm...? Erm what? :-) Cheers, Chris. -- _____ __ _ \ __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software |