From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 1 07:24:40 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Tobias Balle-Petersen) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:24:40 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] bbackupctl always fails when run from crontab. Manual always OK? In-Reply-To: <44EDB18E.8020808@reedtz.com> References: <44EB0696.6010100@kontrapunkt.com> <20060822145325.4kq6a0g6osw8g04s@ebourne.me.uk> <44EB2512.7010207@kontrapunkt.com> <44EB3FBC.9030603@reedtz.com> <44EB4ECC.2020007@kontrapunkt.com> <44EB64BE.9090306@reedtz.com> <44EB66A6.2060405@kontrapunkt.com> <44EBE2C1.3000706@reedtz.com> <44EC2861.2030701@kontrapunkt.com> <44EC69B2.2050101@kontrapunkt.com> <44ED7BE8.4070003@kontrapunkt.com> <44EDB18E.8020808@reedtz.com> Message-ID: <44F7D228.7060200@kontrapunkt.com> Hello.... I am now running a reload before I sync, and I have had no errors since I made the change. Here are my new cronjobs: 20 10 * * * /usr/local/bin/bbackupctl -c /etc/box_minimoni/bbackupd.conf reload 25 10 * * * /usr/local/bin/bbackupctl -c /etc/box_minimoni/bbackupd.conf sync Any ideas as to why this fixes my problem of dropping connections? Does the reload command empty the /var/bbackupd? Thanks, Tobias From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 1 12:37:48 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Tobias Balle-Petersen) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:37:48 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] Testing boxbackup after compiling - What to do about errors? Message-ID: <44F81B8C.3050302@kontrapunkt.com> Hello... I have compiled boxbackup on a PPC machine running Debian. When running all the tests after the sucessfull compilation I get this result: WARNING: This test was run as root. Some tests have been omitted. FAILED: 2 tests failed -------- common: PASSED crypto: PASSED compress: PASSED basicserver: PASSED raidfile: PASSED backupstore: PASSED backupstorefix: PASSED backupstorepatch: PASSED backupdiff: FAILED: 1 tests failed bbackupd: FAILED: 2 tests failed This is what I get if I run the tests from a non root account: common: make failed crypto: make failed compress: make failed basicserver: make failed raidfile: make failed backupstore: make failed backupstorefix: make failed backupstorepatch: make failed backupdiff: make failed bbackupd: make failed What do I need to do to pass the two failing tests? Thanks, Tobias From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 1 13:51:15 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Chris Wilson) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 13:51:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Box Backup] Testing boxbackup after compiling - What to do about errors? In-Reply-To: <44F81B8C.3050302@kontrapunkt.com> References: <44F81B8C.3050302@kontrapunkt.com> Message-ID: Hi Tobias, > This is what I get if I run the tests from a non root account: > common: make failed > crypto: make failed > compress: make failed > basicserver: make failed > raidfile: make failed > backupstore: make failed > backupstorefix: make failed > backupstorepatch: make failed > backupdiff: make failed > bbackupd: make failed Probably, root has created all the files and they are not writable by a normal user, so make cannot rebuild anything. You could try a make clean first, or extract a second copy of the source. > What do I need to do to pass the two failing tests? I'm afraid you will have to provide much more details, such as the context surrounding the "FAILURE:" lines in the test output, before we can help you here. Cheers, Chris. -- _ ___ __ _ / __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software | From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 1 14:43:00 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Tobias Balle-Petersen) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:43:00 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] Testing boxbackup after compiling - What to do about errors? In-Reply-To: References: <44F81B8C.3050302@kontrapunkt.com> Message-ID: <44F838E4.3090104@kontrapunkt.com> Hello Chris... Sorry for the incomplete mail earlier. I have made a non-root user owner af all the boxbackup files. All the tests except one passes: PASSED -------- common: PASSED crypto: PASSED compress: TEST: test/compress basicserver: Copying new test files... raidfile: PASSED backupstore: PASSED backupstorefix: PASSED backupstorepatch: PASSED backupdiff: FAILED: 1 tests failed bbackupd: PASSED I then run ./runtest.pl backupdiff and save the log. These are the errors: ............ Diff block size 62: 0 (count = 0) Diff block size 63: 0 (count = 0) Diff: list of found blocks ======== ======== ======== ======== Offset BlkIdx Size Movement ======== ======== ======== ======== Diff: Default recipe generated, 0 bytes of file Reading index from 'testfiles/f9.diff', has 0 blocks ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== Index Where EncSz/Idx Size WChcksm ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== Reading index from 'testfiles/f9.zerotest', has 0 blocks ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== Index Where EncSz/Idx Size WChcksm ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== Reading index from 'testfiles/f2.symlink.diff', has 0 blocks ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== Index Where EncSz/Idx Size WChcksm ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== Obtained 6 stack frames. ./test [0x1003bc40] ./test [0x10017904] ./test [0x10017364] ./test [0x100062d0] ./test [0x10006cb4] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0x170) [0xfa55220] Exception thrown: BackupStoreException(CannotDiffAnIncompleteStoreFile) at BackupStoreFileDiff.cpp(350) Diff block size 0: 8192 (count = 2560) Diff block size 1: 0 (count = 0) Diff block size 2: 0 (count = 0) Diff block size 3: 0 (count = 0) Diff block size 4: 0 (count = 0) ............... 0 2559 1 0 2559 1 0 2559 1 ======== ========= ======== FAILURE: Condition [time(0) < (beginTime + 40)] failed at testbackupdiff.cpp(544) FAILED: 1 tests failed -------- backupdiff: FAILED: 1 tests failed Thanks, Tobias Chris Wilson wrote: > Hi Tobias, > >> This is what I get if I run the tests from a non root account: >> common: make failed >> crypto: make failed >> compress: make failed >> basicserver: make failed >> raidfile: make failed >> backupstore: make failed >> backupstorefix: make failed >> backupstorepatch: make failed >> backupdiff: make failed >> bbackupd: make failed > > Probably, root has created all the files and they are not writable by > a normal user, so make cannot rebuild anything. You could try a make > clean first, or extract a second copy of the source. > >> What do I need to do to pass the two failing tests? > > I'm afraid you will have to provide much more details, such as the > context surrounding the "FAILURE:" lines in the test output, before we > can help you here. > > Cheers, Chris. From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 1 15:05:02 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 15:05:02 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Testing boxbackup after compiling - What to do about errors? In-Reply-To: <44F838E4.3090104@kontrapunkt.com> References: <44F81B8C.3050302@kontrapunkt.com> <44F838E4.3090104@kontrapunkt.com> Message-ID: <04A92999-86C9-4179-BCB9-CB1FBF7DDE78@fluffy.co.uk> You appear to have a very slow computer. That's the only problem. Ben On 1 Sep 2006, at 14:43, Tobias Balle-Petersen wrote: > Hello Chris... > > Sorry for the incomplete mail earlier. > > I have made a non-root user owner af all the boxbackup files. All > the tests except one passes: > PASSED > -------- > common: PASSED > crypto: PASSED > compress: TEST: test/compress > basicserver: Copying new test files... > raidfile: PASSED > backupstore: PASSED > backupstorefix: PASSED > backupstorepatch: PASSED > backupdiff: FAILED: 1 tests failed > bbackupd: PASSED > > > I then run ./runtest.pl backupdiff and save the log. These are the > errors: > ............ > Diff block size 62: 0 (count = 0) > Diff block size 63: 0 (count = 0) > Diff: list of found blocks > ======== ======== ======== ======== > Offset BlkIdx Size Movement > ======== ======== ======== ======== > Diff: Default recipe generated, 0 bytes of file > Reading index from 'testfiles/f9.diff', has 0 blocks > ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== > Index Where EncSz/Idx Size WChcksm > ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== > Reading index from 'testfiles/f9.zerotest', has 0 blocks > ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== > Index Where EncSz/Idx Size WChcksm > ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== > Reading index from 'testfiles/f2.symlink.diff', has 0 blocks > ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== > Index Where EncSz/Idx Size WChcksm > ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== > Obtained 6 stack frames. > ./test [0x1003bc40] > ./test [0x10017904] > ./test [0x10017364] > ./test [0x100062d0] > ./test [0x10006cb4] > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0x170) [0xfa55220] > Exception thrown: BackupStoreException > (CannotDiffAnIncompleteStoreFile) at BackupStoreFileDiff.cpp(350) > Diff block size 0: 8192 (count = 2560) > Diff block size 1: 0 (count = 0) > Diff block size 2: 0 (count = 0) > Diff block size 3: 0 (count = 0) > Diff block size 4: 0 (count = 0) > ............... > 0 2559 1 > 0 2559 1 > 0 2559 1 > ======== ========= ======== > FAILURE: Condition [time(0) < (beginTime + 40)] failed at > testbackupdiff.cpp(544) > FAILED: 1 tests failed > -------- > backupdiff: FAILED: 1 tests failed > > > > Thanks, > Tobias > > > > > > > > Chris Wilson wrote: >> Hi Tobias, >> >>> This is what I get if I run the tests from a non root account: >>> common: make failed >>> crypto: make failed >>> compress: make failed >>> basicserver: make failed >>> raidfile: make failed >>> backupstore: make failed >>> backupstorefix: make failed >>> backupstorepatch: make failed >>> backupdiff: make failed >>> bbackupd: make failed >> >> Probably, root has created all the files and they are not writable >> by a normal user, so make cannot rebuild anything. You could try a >> make clean first, or extract a second copy of the source. >> >>> What do I need to do to pass the two failing tests? >> >> I'm afraid you will have to provide much more details, such as the >> context surrounding the "FAILURE:" lines in the test output, >> before we can help you here. >> >> Cheers, Chris. > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 1 15:15:18 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Tobias Balle-Petersen) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:15:18 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] Testing boxbackup after compiling - What to do about errors? In-Reply-To: <04A92999-86C9-4179-BCB9-CB1FBF7DDE78@fluffy.co.uk> References: <44F81B8C.3050302@kontrapunkt.com> <44F838E4.3090104@kontrapunkt.com> <04A92999-86C9-4179-BCB9-CB1FBF7DDE78@fluffy.co.uk> Message-ID: <44F84076.1040400@kontrapunkt.com> Hello.... Ha ha, thats true I guess. It's a an old Apple G4 400MHhz. Will this lack of speed be a problem down the line from a boxbackup perspective? Tobias Ben Summers wrote: > > You appear to have a very slow computer. That's the only problem. > > Ben > > > On 1 Sep 2006, at 14:43, Tobias Balle-Petersen wrote: > >> Hello Chris... >> >> Sorry for the incomplete mail earlier. >> >> I have made a non-root user owner af all the boxbackup files. All the >> tests except one passes: >> PASSED >> -------- >> common: PASSED >> crypto: PASSED >> compress: TEST: test/compress >> basicserver: Copying new test files... >> raidfile: PASSED >> backupstore: PASSED >> backupstorefix: PASSED >> backupstorepatch: PASSED >> backupdiff: FAILED: 1 tests failed >> bbackupd: PASSED >> >> >> I then run ./runtest.pl backupdiff and save the log. These are the >> errors: >> ............ >> Diff block size 62: 0 (count = 0) >> Diff block size 63: 0 (count = 0) >> Diff: list of found blocks >> ======== ======== ======== ======== >> Offset BlkIdx Size Movement >> ======== ======== ======== ======== >> Diff: Default recipe generated, 0 bytes of file >> Reading index from 'testfiles/f9.diff', has 0 blocks >> ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== >> Index Where EncSz/Idx Size WChcksm >> ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== >> Reading index from 'testfiles/f9.zerotest', has 0 blocks >> ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== >> Index Where EncSz/Idx Size WChcksm >> ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== >> Reading index from 'testfiles/f2.symlink.diff', has 0 blocks >> ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== >> Index Where EncSz/Idx Size WChcksm >> ======== ===== ========== ======== ======== >> Obtained 6 stack frames. >> ./test [0x1003bc40] >> ./test [0x10017904] >> ./test [0x10017364] >> ./test [0x100062d0] >> ./test [0x10006cb4] >> /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0x170) [0xfa55220] >> Exception thrown: >> BackupStoreException(CannotDiffAnIncompleteStoreFile) at >> BackupStoreFileDiff.cpp(350) >> Diff block size 0: 8192 (count = 2560) >> Diff block size 1: 0 (count = 0) >> Diff block size 2: 0 (count = 0) >> Diff block size 3: 0 (count = 0) >> Diff block size 4: 0 (count = 0) >> ............... >> 0 2559 1 >> 0 2559 1 >> 0 2559 1 >> ======== ========= ======== >> FAILURE: Condition [time(0) < (beginTime + 40)] failed at >> testbackupdiff.cpp(544) >> FAILED: 1 tests failed >> -------- >> backupdiff: FAILED: 1 tests failed >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Tobias >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Chris Wilson wrote: >>> Hi Tobias, >>> >>>> This is what I get if I run the tests from a non root account: >>>> common: make failed >>>> crypto: make failed >>>> compress: make failed >>>> basicserver: make failed >>>> raidfile: make failed >>>> backupstore: make failed >>>> backupstorefix: make failed >>>> backupstorepatch: make failed >>>> backupdiff: make failed >>>> bbackupd: make failed >>> >>> Probably, root has created all the files and they are not writable >>> by a normal user, so make cannot rebuild anything. You could try a >>> make clean first, or extract a second copy of the source. >>> >>>> What do I need to do to pass the two failing tests? >>> >>> I'm afraid you will have to provide much more details, such as the >>> context surrounding the "FAILURE:" lines in the test output, before >>> we can help you here. >>> >>> Cheers, Chris. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 1 15:36:35 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 15:36:35 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] bbackupctl always fails when run from crontab. Manual always OK? In-Reply-To: <44F7D228.7060200@kontrapunkt.com> References: <44EB0696.6010100@kontrapunkt.com> <20060822145325.4kq6a0g6osw8g04s@ebourne.me.uk> <44EB2512.7010207@kontrapunkt.com> <44EB3FBC.9030603@reedtz.com> <44EB4ECC.2020007@kontrapunkt.com> <44EB64BE.9090306@reedtz.com> <44EB66A6.2060405@kontrapunkt.com> <44EBE2C1.3000706@reedtz.com> <44EC2861.2030701@kontrapunkt.com> <44EC69B2.2050101@kontrapunkt.com> <44ED7BE8.4070003@kontrapunkt.com> <44EDB18E.8020808@reedtz.com> <44F7D228.7060200@kontrapunkt.com> Message-ID: <7F90963B-3F32-4141-A89A-98B586DD29B9@fluffy.co.uk> On 1 Sep 2006, at 07:24, Tobias Balle-Petersen wrote: > Hello.... > > I am now running a reload before I sync, and I have had no errors > since I made the change. > > Here are my new cronjobs: > 20 10 * * * /usr/local/bin/bbackupctl -c /etc/box_minimoni/ > bbackupd.conf reload > 25 10 * * * /usr/local/bin/bbackupctl -c /etc/box_minimoni/ > bbackupd.conf sync > > > Any ideas as to why this fixes my problem of dropping connections? > Does the reload command empty the /var/bbackupd? The reload command will clear any state within bbackupd, forcing either a reload of the saved state (if you've set it to do this) or a rescan of all files and a request for all directories from the server. Ben From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 1 15:41:42 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Tobias Balle-Petersen) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:41:42 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] bbackupctl always fails when run from crontab. Manual always OK? In-Reply-To: <7F90963B-3F32-4141-A89A-98B586DD29B9@fluffy.co.uk> References: <44EB0696.6010100@kontrapunkt.com> <20060822145325.4kq6a0g6osw8g04s@ebourne.me.uk> <44EB2512.7010207@kontrapunkt.com> <44EB3FBC.9030603@reedtz.com> <44EB4ECC.2020007@kontrapunkt.com> <44EB64BE.9090306@reedtz.com> <44EB66A6.2060405@kontrapunkt.com> <44EBE2C1.3000706@reedtz.com> <44EC2861.2030701@kontrapunkt.com> <44EC69B2.2050101@kontrapunkt.com> <44ED7BE8.4070003@kontrapunkt.com> <44EDB18E.8020808@reedtz.com> <44F7D228.7060200@kontrapunkt.com> <7F90963B-3F32-4141-A89A-98B586DD29B9@fluffy.co.uk> Message-ID: <44F846A6.9@kontrapunkt.com> Hello.... So, would I not want to keep running boxbackup this way? What are the consequences? Tobias Ben Summers wrote: > > On 1 Sep 2006, at 07:24, Tobias Balle-Petersen wrote: > >> Hello.... >> >> I am now running a reload before I sync, and I have had no errors >> since I made the change. >> >> Here are my new cronjobs: >> 20 10 * * * /usr/local/bin/bbackupctl -c >> /etc/box_minimoni/bbackupd.conf reload >> 25 10 * * * /usr/local/bin/bbackupctl -c >> /etc/box_minimoni/bbackupd.conf sync >> >> >> Any ideas as to why this fixes my problem of dropping connections? >> Does the reload command empty the /var/bbackupd? > > The reload command will clear any state within bbackupd, forcing > either a reload of the saved state (if you've set it to do this) or a > rescan of all files and a request for all directories from the server. > > Ben > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Wed Sep 6 16:00:15 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:00:15 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Add extra option for client to solve NAT problem? Message-ID: <200609061600.15484.david@readingroom.com> Hi, I'm a new boxbackup user, and battling with a problem caused by NAT that I can't find discussed directly in any of the docs. I'm aware of the suggestions for when your server is hidden behind NAT, but I have a case not directly considered. First of all, thank you for your hard work on this product. I hope it will be very useful for me - it's shaping up that way. My server is on a LAN, and from the Internet it is behind NAT. The docs only seem to consider the case where all the clients being backed up are on the Internet. They don't consider the case where some are on the LAN and some on the Internet. Say my bb server is on the LAN as 192.168.1.1, but on the Internet as 1.2.3.4. Then there is no single hostname that is appropriate for both types of client, apart from the ugly kludge of having the LAN traffic travel to the Internet router and back via NAT (using the Internet address in both types of client). As a solution, I would suggest having a new option in the client. Presently, the server name is used _both_ for resolving to an IP address and for verifying the SSL certificate presented. I would suggest having these represented by two options instead of by one. One option would indicate the hostname for the server, and a second would verify what the server's SSL certificate is expected to contain. If the second option is not specified, then it would default to the first. This would mean that there would be no issues for people upgrading their clients - sane degradation would occur. The very popular OpenVPN takes the approach suggested above - see its "remote" and "tls-remote" options in its man page (http://openvpn.net/man.html). Kind regards, David Anderson P.S. A hello to Ben - he probably won't remember, but about 10 years ago I sent him a MineSweeper clone which I'd written for RISC OS 3, which he kindly reviewed! Actually it's the memory of Ben's reputation in the RISC OS world which commended boxbackup to me. From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Wed Sep 6 16:56:38 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Jamie Webb) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:56:38 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Add extra option for client to solve NAT problem? In-Reply-To: <200609061600.15484.david@readingroom.com> References: <200609061600.15484.david@readingroom.com> Message-ID: <20060906155638.GP22205@digitalice.co.uk> On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 04:00:15PM +0100, David Anderson wrote: > Say my bb server is on the LAN as 192.168.1.1, but on the Internet as 1.2.3.4. > Then there is no single hostname that is appropriate for both types of > client, apart from the ugly kludge of having the LAN traffic travel to the > Internet router and back via NAT (using the Internet address in both types of > client). A simple solution is to put the backup server's external name in /etc/hosts on each internal client. Or do the equivalent using DNS. -- Jamie Webb From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 7 14:01:49 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:01:49 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Add extra option for client to solve NAT problem? In-Reply-To: <20060906155638.GP22205@digitalice.co.uk> References: <200609061600.15484.david@readingroom.com> <20060906155638.GP22205@digitalice.co.uk> Message-ID: <200609071401.49977.david@readingroom.com> On Wednesday 06 September 2006 16:56, Jamie Webb wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 04:00:15PM +0100, David Anderson wrote: > > Say my bb server is on the LAN as 192.168.1.1, but on the Internet as > > 1.2.3.4. Then there is no single hostname that is appropriate for both > > types of client, apart from the ugly kludge of having the LAN traffic > > travel to the Internet router and back via NAT (using the Internet > > address in both types of client). > > A simple solution is to put the backup server's external name in > /etc/hosts on each internal client. Or do the equivalent using DNS. > Thanks for that, Jamie. I was planning on doing something very similar (putting the backup server's internal names in /etc/hosts in the external client - I have to do it this way as the internal clients are already operational). However, it's clearly an inelegant kludge, and I think it would be useful to provide a better facility in future versions of boxbackup. If I were a C coder, I'd write a patch - but I have no expertise in that department. David > -- Jamie Webb > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 7 14:50:52 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:50:52 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Compression during transport? Message-ID: <200609071450.52525.david@readingroom.com> Sorry if I've missed something obvious, but I couldn't find the answer to this from Google etc. Does boxbackup compress "on the wire" as well as on disk? I ask, because I need to evaluate the likely bandwidth cost of an initial "sync" of a machine with many Gb of data. If the answer is "no", then there's another feature idea! Kind regards, David -- Skype: davidcanderson / MSN: david at readingroom.com From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 7 15:02:49 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Stefan Norlin) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:02:49 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] Compression during transport? References: <200609071450.52525.david@readingroom.com> Message-ID: <026801c6d286$4dbeac30$1601060a@cs> > Does boxbackup compress "on the wire" as well as on disk? I ask, because I > need to evaluate the likely bandwidth cost of an initial "sync" of a > machine > with many Gb of data. Compression is done on the client side before transfer. You will find an entry in the log (client side) looking like this: Sep 6 02:12:24 webster2 bbackupd[2767]: File statistics: total file size uploaded 384737508, bytes already on server 168098559, encoded size 98437347 So, around 98 MB was transfered in this case (after selecting, encrypting/compressing the data). Stefan From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 7 15:17:08 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:17:08 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Compression during transport? In-Reply-To: <026801c6d286$4dbeac30$1601060a@cs> References: <200609071450.52525.david@readingroom.com> <026801c6d286$4dbeac30$1601060a@cs> Message-ID: <200609071517.08224.david@readingroom.com> Thanks Stefan. David On Thursday 07 September 2006 15:02, Stefan Norlin wrote: > > Does boxbackup compress "on the wire" as well as on disk? I ask, because > > I need to evaluate the likely bandwidth cost of an initial "sync" of a > > machine > > with many Gb of data. > > Compression is done on the client side before transfer. > > You will find an entry in the log (client side) looking like this: > > Sep 6 02:12:24 webster2 bbackupd[2767]: File statistics: total file size > uploaded 384737508, bytes already on server 168098559, encoded size > 98437347 > > So, around 98 MB was transfered in this case > (after selecting, encrypting/compressing the data). > > Stefan > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Sun Sep 10 17:49:00 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:49:00 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Add extra option for client to solve NAT problem? In-Reply-To: <200609061600.15484.david@readingroom.com> References: <200609061600.15484.david@readingroom.com> Message-ID: <0EC74B54-8BFC-4CA3-8991-7EEA7F52E559@fluffy.co.uk> Delayed response; been on holiday. I was going to write an email saying "good plan, I've added a ticket", but as I was writing the notes for how to implement it, I discovered that bbackupd does not check the server's certificate's common name. (Although it does of course check that the certificate is signed by the expected Certificate Authority, so it is properly secure and in this context checking the certificate name doesn't give you much more, if anything.) So, I'm guessing there's another problem here. What are the symptoms of your problems with the other hosts? I assume the server, client and signing host's clocks were in sync -- the most common causes of problems with certificates. Ben PS: Kind words. I do sort of remember the incident. It was a long time ago though. :-) On 6 Sep 2006, at 16:00, David Anderson wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm a new boxbackup user, and battling with a problem caused by NAT > that I > can't find discussed directly in any of the docs. I'm aware of the > suggestions for when your server is hidden behind NAT, but I have a > case not > directly considered. > > First of all, thank you for your hard work on this product. I hope > it will be > very useful for me - it's shaping up that way. > > My server is on a LAN, and from the Internet it is behind NAT. The > docs only > seem to consider the case where all the clients being backed up are > on the > Internet. They don't consider the case where some are on the LAN > and some on > the Internet. > > Say my bb server is on the LAN as 192.168.1.1, but on the Internet > as 1.2.3.4. > Then there is no single hostname that is appropriate for both types of > client, apart from the ugly kludge of having the LAN traffic travel > to the > Internet router and back via NAT (using the Internet address in > both types of > client). > > As a solution, I would suggest having a new option in the client. > Presently, > the server name is used _both_ for resolving to an IP address and for > verifying the SSL certificate presented. I would suggest having these > represented by two options instead of by one. One option would > indicate the > hostname for the server, and a second would verify what the > server's SSL > certificate is expected to contain. If the second option is not > specified, > then it would default to the first. This would mean that there > would be no > issues for people upgrading their clients - sane degradation would > occur. > > The very popular OpenVPN takes the approach suggested above - see > its "remote" > and "tls-remote" options in its man page (http://openvpn.net/ > man.html). > > Kind regards, > David Anderson > > P.S. A hello to Ben - he probably won't remember, but about 10 > years ago I > sent him a MineSweeper clone which I'd written for RISC OS 3, which > he kindly > reviewed! Actually it's the memory of Ben's reputation in the RISC > OS world > which commended boxbackup to me. > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Mon Sep 11 11:03:59 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:03:59 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Add extra option for client to solve NAT problem? In-Reply-To: <0EC74B54-8BFC-4CA3-8991-7EEA7F52E559@fluffy.co.uk> References: <200609061600.15484.david@readingroom.com> <0EC74B54-8BFC-4CA3-8991-7EEA7F52E559@fluffy.co.uk> Message-ID: <200609111103.59249.david@readingroom.com> On Sunday 10 September 2006 17:49, Ben Summers wrote: > I was going to write an email saying "good plan, I've added a =A0 > ticket", but as I was writing the notes for how to implement it, I =A0 > discovered that bbackupd does not check the server's certificate's =A0 > common name. (Although it does of course check that the certificate =A0 > is signed by the expected Certificate Authority, so it is properly =A0 > secure and in this context checking the certificate name doesn't give =A0 > you much more, if anything.) > > So, I'm guessing there's another problem here. What are the symptoms =A0 > of your problems with the other hosts? I assume the server, client =A0 > and signing host's clocks were in sync -- the most common causes of =A0 > problems with certificates. Hello Ben, =46rom what you say, I guess that there isn't a problem! I read something i= n the=20 docs, and assumed that the server's name in the certificate needed to match= =20 the DNS name being used to contact the server. I got this from=20 (mis-)interpreting point 1) in the line "The hostname specified is used for= =20 1) the name in the server's certificate and 2) the address the server will= =20 listen on." (http://www.fluffy.co.uk/boxbackup/server.html). Going on this assumption, I didn't bother to even try setting up the client= =20 using a different server name to what was in the certificate. I just went=20 ahead and fiddled /etc/hosts. It seems now that that was unnecessary! I still think this would be a valuable feature, for the same reasons as giv= en=20 in the OpenVPN documentation (man page? Can't remember). There it is argued= =20 that verifying the certificate name is an efficient alternative to=20 maintaining a CRL server/list. If your server certificate is compromised bu= t=20 the CA is not compromised, then under boxbackup's present model you still=20 have to replace your whole PKI infrastructure (assuming I've understood=20 correctly), or go through the trouble of setting up a CRL (because boxbacku= p=20 isn't distinguishing one certificate signed by the CA from another). Howeve= r,=20 if the server name is checked, then you only need to issue a new server=20 certficate, and re-configure the clients to check for the new name on the=20 certificate - no need to replace your CA. Cheers, David From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 15 23:02:40 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Magnus Homann) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:02:40 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] Readline and i18n? Message-ID: <450B2300.8010404@homann.se> Hello, I just discovered that I couldn't enter non-ASCII characters in bbackupquery interactive mode. Hard to restore files then. It was however possible to do sudo bbackupquery 'restore path-with-???' Is there some conf with libedit? ldd bbackupquery shows libedit.so.2 Linux 2.6.12 (ubuntu 5.10) BoxBackup 0.10 Magnus From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Mon Sep 25 09:48:32 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Chris Wilson) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:48:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Box Backup] Generating private key, certificate request on Windows, bbackupd-config In-Reply-To: <20060822202748.79303.qmail@web60618.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060822202748.79303.qmail@web60618.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Pete and all, >> Boxi has a GUI wizard for generating certificates in the new version, >> that links directly to the relevant OpenSSL code, so it doesn't require >> any Unix shell or openssl.exe. >> >> I haven't compiled it on Windows yet, but it's one of my next >> priorities, and I intend to give you a pre-pre-prerelease for testing >> as soon as I have done so, which I hope will be in the next two weeks. > > Great to hear about boxi! I can't wait to test it. The pre-pre-release is available at: [http://gcc.flexdns.net/boxi-win32-bin-060925.zip] This is a very early work in progress. It's a Windows-only binary, built using MinGW from the current Subversion sources. I know that it has plenty of bugs. I'm still finding bugs with my unit tests, so bug reports are probably not useful right now. On the other hand, feature suggestions, questions and ideas are very welcome. I hope to have an improved version available within a few weeks. Cheers, Chris. -- _ ___ __ _ / __/ / ,__(_)_ | Chris Wilson <0000 at qwirx.com> - Cambs UK | / (_/ ,\/ _/ /_ \ | Security/C/C++/Java/Perl/SQL/HTML Developer | \ _/_/_/_//_/___/ | We are GNU-free your mind-and your software | From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Mon Sep 25 21:53:34 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (J.A.Aylward) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:53:34 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] bbackupd on Linux Message-ID: <451841CE.2010107@ex.ac.uk> I wonder if anyone can help? I'm trying to install boxbackup on Debian Linux (testing). I've created,signed and transferred certificates, and am ready to run bbackupd but when I do I get: * bbackupd: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory libcrypto.so.0.9.8 is installed Is this a dependency problem? - in which case any ideas which package I'm missing? or is it just a file permission problem on a certificate or other file/folder? Many thanks in advance Jamie Aylward * From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Mon Sep 25 21:28:01 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Martin Ebourne) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:28:01 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] bbackupd on Linux In-Reply-To: <451841CE.2010107@ex.ac.uk> References: <451841CE.2010107@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1159216082.16796.1.camel@avenin.ebourne.me.uk> On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 21:53 +0100, J.A.Aylward wrote: > I wonder if anyone can help? > > I'm trying to install boxbackup on Debian Linux (testing). > I've created,signed and transferred certificates, and am ready to run > bbackupd > > but when I do I get: > * > bbackupd: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > libcrypto.so.0.9.8 is installed > > Is this a dependency problem? - in which case any ideas which package > I'm missing? > or is it just a file permission problem on a certificate or other > file/folder? Looks like you built on one machine and deployed on another where there are different versions of the libraries, or maybe missing libraries. Perhaps a few more details on what you did, how you configured it etc, would help. Cheers, Martin. From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Tue Sep 26 22:02:28 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (J.A.Aylward) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:02:28 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Re: boxbackup digest, Vol 1 #655 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <20060926110001.2752.95319.Mailman@love.warhead.org.uk> References: <20060926110001.2752.95319.Mailman@love.warhead.org.uk> Message-ID: <45199564.7000505@ex.ac.uk> Many thanks Martin for this You pointed me in the right direction, and I recompiled everything on the machine I want to backup so now I think I've just got to put the certificates in the right place. thanks again Jamie Aylward > > Looks like you built on one machine and deployed on another where there > are different versions of the libraries, or maybe missing libraries. > > Perhaps a few more details on what you did, how you configured it etc, > would help. > > Cheers, > > Martin. > > I wonder if anyone can help? I'm trying to install boxbackup on Debian Linux (testing). I've created,signed and transferred certificates, and am ready to run bbackupd but when I do I get: * bbackupd: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory libcrypto.so.0.9.8 is installed Is this a dependency problem? - in which case any ideas which package I'm missing? or is it just a file permission problem on a certificate or other file/folder? Many thanks in advance Jamie Aylward * > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > > End of boxbackup Digest > From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Tue Sep 26 23:27:43 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Jonas Berlin) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:27:43 +0000 Subject: [Box Backup] My little boxbackup HOWTO Message-ID: <4519A95F.3080104@outerspace.dyndns.org> Hi. The documentation at the boxbackup homepage took me a long time to grasp and in the confusion and while testing forth and back, I ended up writing down the commands I used to accomplish varying tasks.. One thing lead to another and soon I had a html page with command listings. Html editing was clumsy though and I converted it to a cleaner xml format and created a simple XSLT stylesheet that produces the messy html automatically. Now, the manual has been tested & used by some of my friends already and I have made various fixes and added clarifying comments here and there. The outstanding problem with my HOWTO is that it's a frigging wide html page. I'd say print it in landscape mode and read it from there if you get tired of scrolling sideways in the browser :) Anyway.. the basic idea is to provide the instructions in a task-oriented manner with clear and mostly copy-pastable instructions of what needs to be done and where transactions between the parties (the CA, the server and the client(s)) need to be done. When you find some spot in the howto you can't understand, disagree with or otherwise want to debate on, just mail me and I'll try to clarify stuff. :) If I get time, I would like to document the final major thing - how to recover when your house burnt down and the only thing you've got is the 1024-byte encoding key that you luckily/responsibly printed and sent to your grandmother labeled "Winning lotto numbers". :) The howto is licensed under the least strict Creative Commons license. The html version is available here: http://xkr47.outerspace.dyndns.org/howtos/boxbackup/ For the xml source, the xsl stylesheet and the Makefile I use: http://xkr47.outerspace.dyndns.org/howtos/boxbackup/index.xml http://xkr47.outerspace.dyndns.org/howtos/boxbackup/index.xsl http://xkr47.outerspace.dyndns.org/howtos/boxbackup/Makefile Please note that the page also refers these two sample init scripts: http://xkr47.outerspace.dyndns.org/howtos/boxbackup/bbackupd http://xkr47.outerspace.dyndns.org/howtos/boxbackup/bbstored Hope to hear from you, -- - xkr47 From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Wed Sep 27 04:04:23 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:04:23 -0400 Subject: [Box Backup] local backups really slow Message-ID: <20060926230423.48c91890@dev.futz.org> Hi, I'm trying to backup to a server running on the local machine to set up a disk I'm going to use at a remote site. I figured a local backup would be much faster than having to back up 40G of data over the net. However, it's not nearly as fast as I expected. It seems to only be going at about 200K/s, which is paltry in comparison to the M/s rates I see when doing local rsyncs. The src and destination drives are on different IDE busses. Does that seem really slow to those of you using box backup, maybe over a local lan? Might have have some real simple setting wrong? It's not a slow machine - Athalon 2G, with 2.5G of memory.. CPU usage (per top) is running about 10% user and 88% wait, and has been for several hours. The client/server addresses are on the loopback interface. Any ideas on why it's so slow, or how I could speed it up? From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Wed Sep 27 07:02:56 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Scott) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:02:56 +1000 Subject: [Box Backup] Strange Request In-Reply-To: <20060926230423.48c91890@dev.futz.org> Message-ID: <000e01c6e1fa$94105610$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> Hi All, I have a strange request. How hard would it be to modify bb in such a way that the on-disk encryption is removed. Thanks. From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Wed Sep 27 09:04:07 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Martin Ebourne) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:04:07 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] local backups really slow In-Reply-To: <20060926230423.48c91890@dev.futz.org> References: <20060926230423.48c91890@dev.futz.org> Message-ID: <1159344247.20919.4.camel@avenin.ebourne.me.uk> On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 23:04 -0400, rs at boxbackup.spam.futz.org wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to backup to a server running on the local machine to set up a disk > I'm going to use at a remote site. I figured a local backup would be much > faster than having to back up 40G of data over the net. However, it's not > nearly as fast as I expected. It seems to only be going at about 200K/s, which > is paltry in comparison to the M/s rates I see when doing local rsyncs. The > src and destination drives are on different IDE busses. > > Does that seem really slow to those of you using box backup, maybe over a > local lan? Might have have some real simple setting wrong? It's not a slow > machine - Athalon 2G, with 2.5G of memory.. CPU usage (per top) is running > about 10% user and 88% wait, and has been for several hours. The client/server > addresses are on the loopback interface. > > Any ideas on why it's so slow, or how I could speed it up? The machine is heavily IO bound and it's clearly not transfer rate so it is presumably seeking that is giving the trouble. Given that rsync doesn't have this problem maybe it's the seeking on the server side. Would be worth confirming which disk is causing the trouble. Have a go with iostat see what you can come up with. Cheers, Martin. From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Wed Sep 27 08:59:04 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Martin Ebourne) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:59:04 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Strange Request In-Reply-To: <000e01c6e1fa$94105610$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> References: <000e01c6e1fa$94105610$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> Message-ID: <1159343944.20919.0.camel@avenin.ebourne.me.uk> On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 16:02 +1000, Scott wrote: > Hi All, > I have a strange request. How hard would it be to modify bb in such > a way that the on-disk encryption is removed. Easy, just use rsync over ssh. Cheers, Martin. From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Wed Sep 27 17:01:38 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:01:38 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Strange Request In-Reply-To: <000e01c6e1fa$94105610$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> References: <000e01c6e1fa$94105610$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> Message-ID: Why would you want to do that? If you want no encryption, use something like rsync, as Martin suggests. Ben On 27 Sep 2006, at 07:02, Scott wrote: > Hi All, > I have a strange request. How hard would it be to modify bb in such > a way that the on-disk encryption is removed. > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Wed Sep 27 17:08:20 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:08:20 -0400 Subject: [Box Backup] local backups really slow In-Reply-To: <1159344247.20919.4.camel@avenin.ebourne.me.uk> References: <20060926230423.48c91890@dev.futz.org> <1159344247.20919.4.camel@avenin.ebourne.me.uk> Message-ID: <20060927120820.1412d0f9@dev.futz.org> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:04:07 +0100 Martin wrote: ME> On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 23:04 -0400, rs at boxbackup.spam.futz.org wrote: ME> > I'm trying to backup to a server running on the local machine to set up ME> > a disk I'm going to use at a remote site. [...] It seems to only be going ME> > at about 200K/s, which is paltry in comparison to the M/s rates I see ME> > when doing local rsyncs. ME> ME> The machine is heavily IO bound and it's clearly not transfer rate so it ME> is presumably seeking that is giving the trouble. More fun and games.. this morning, I tried again, this time using a non-raid configuration. I set up bandwidth monitoring on the loopback interface and started a backup. Initially, it looked great: 60/20 % CPU usage for bbackup and bbstored, and 8000K/s.... The it dropped to 7/3 % CPU usages and 200K/s. This time, it's just at about 3% wait, and 80% idle. A few minutes later it perked up again for a minute, before dropping again. It's been a few minutes with no signs of picking back up again... Looking at the logs, I see that housekeeping ran about 5 minutes after the connection message for the backup.. maybe housekeeping tweaks something that affects throughput and doesn't reset it when housekeeping is done?? From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Wed Sep 27 18:19:36 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Stefan Norlin) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:19:36 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] local backups really slow References: <20060926230423.48c91890@dev.futz.org><1159344247.20919.4.camel@avenin.ebourne.me.uk> <20060927120820.1412d0f9@dev.futz.org> Message-ID: <006501c6e259$1b1ba0c0$0101050a@stenorhem> > Looking at the logs, I see that housekeeping ran about 5 minutes after the > connection message for the backup.. maybe housekeeping tweaks something > that > affects throughput and doesn't reset it when housekeeping is done?? Don't know if relevant but we saw that with a large box repository the default house keeping interval of 15 minutes (I think) did not work very well and increased it to 8 hours instead. Then things ran much smoother. In bbstored.conf: TimeBetweenHousekeeping = 28800 You may want to try it. Regards, Stefan From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Wed Sep 27 23:22:59 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:22:59 +1000 Subject: [Box Backup] Strange Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002901c6e283$7d08a6f0$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> I would prefer to keep the ease of management and all the features that bb already has. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: boxbackup-admin at fluffy.co.uk [mailto:boxbackup-admin at fluffy.co.uk] On Behalf Of Ben Summers Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 2:02 AM To: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Subject: Re: [Box Backup] Strange Request Why would you want to do that? If you want no encryption, use something like rsync, as Martin suggests. Ben On 27 Sep 2006, at 07:02, Scott wrote: > Hi All, > I have a strange request. How hard would it be to modify bb in such > a way that the on-disk encryption is removed. > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup _______________________________________________ boxbackup mailing list boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 09:37:52 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:37:52 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Strange Request In-Reply-To: <002901c6e283$7d08a6f0$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> References: <002901c6e283$7d08a6f0$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> Message-ID: <8DB8DA51-FF9E-4999-8985-9CB7A668CE3B@fluffy.co.uk> And why would you need to remove encryption? Would you want to remove compression too? And even if you did that, you still wouldn't get a filesystem which looks like the original, because it'll all be encapsulated in the 'strange' way Box Backup does things. Ben On 27 Sep 2006, at 23:22, Scott wrote: > > I would prefer to keep the ease of management and all the features > that bb > already has. > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: boxbackup-admin at fluffy.co.uk [mailto:boxbackup- > admin at fluffy.co.uk] On > Behalf Of Ben Summers > Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 2:02 AM > To: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Box Backup] Strange Request > > > Why would you want to do that? > > If you want no encryption, use something like rsync, as Martin > suggests. > > Ben > > > > On 27 Sep 2006, at 07:02, Scott wrote: > >> Hi All, >> I have a strange request. How hard would it be to modify bb in such >> a way that the on-disk encryption is removed. >> >> Thanks. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 12:01:44 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (J.A.Aylward) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:01:44 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError Message-ID: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> Hi again ! Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? bbackupd and bbstored are both running Certificates are in the correct place (I think) I typed: bbackupctl sync and received: Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf Daemon configuration summary: AutomaticBackup = true UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds Succeeded. Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and contributors 2003-2006 Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf Connecting to store... Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a network issue between client and server, bad hostname, or server not running.) (7/15) I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) hostname is entered in full with the domain name? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks again Jamie Aylward -- J.A.Aylward IT Support/Web Team School of Education and Lifelong Learning http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ 01392 264790 From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 12:09:06 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:09:06 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError In-Reply-To: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: * Can bbackupd connect, or is it just bbackupquery? * Are you running bbackupd and bbackupquery under the same user? * Is there a firewall in the way? * Does using tcpdump to see what's on the wire help? Ben On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:01, J.A.Aylward wrote: > Hi again ! > > Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? > > bbackupd and bbstored are both running > Certificates are in the correct place (I think) > > I typed: bbackupctl sync > and received: > > Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf > Daemon configuration summary: > AutomaticBackup = true > UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds > MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds > MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds > Succeeded. > > Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: > bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit > > > Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and contributors > 2003-2006 > Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf > Connecting to store... > Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a network issue > between client and server, bad hostname, or server not running.) > (7/15) > > I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) > hostname is entered in full with the domain name? > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Many thanks again > > Jamie Aylward > > -- > J.A.Aylward > IT Support/Web Team > School of Education and Lifelong Learning > http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ > 01392 264790 > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 12:22:51 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (J.A.Aylward) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:22:51 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError In-Reply-To: References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> Hi Ben, thanks for your help. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell if bbackupd can connect? We are behind a firewall, but I don't think it's in the way. It blocks UDP traffic, but tcp is ok Yes I'm running both bbackupd and bbackupquery as root I haven't got tcpdump installed, but can do so if needed. Many thanks Jamie J.A.Aylward IT Support/Web Team School of Education and Lifelong Learning http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ 01392 264790 Ben Summers wrote: > > * Can bbackupd connect, or is it just bbackupquery? > > * Are you running bbackupd and bbackupquery under the same user? > > * Is there a firewall in the way? > > * Does using tcpdump to see what's on the wire help? > > Ben > > > > > On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:01, J.A.Aylward wrote: > >> Hi again ! >> >> Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? >> >> bbackupd and bbstored are both running >> Certificates are in the correct place (I think) >> >> I typed: bbackupctl sync >> and received: >> >> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >> Daemon configuration summary: >> AutomaticBackup = true >> UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds >> MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds >> MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds >> Succeeded. >> >> Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: >> bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit >> >> >> Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and contributors >> 2003-2006 >> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >> Connecting to store... >> Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a network issue >> between client and server, bad hostname, or server not running.) (7/15) >> >> I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) >> hostname is entered in full with the domain name? >> >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Many thanks again >> >> Jamie Aylward >> >> --J.A.Aylward >> IT Support/Web Team >> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >> 01392 264790 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 12:25:35 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Stefan Norlin) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:25:35 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: <02d601c6e2f0$d1455c50$0101050a@stenorhem> > Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell if bbackupd can > connect? bbackupd listens on port 2201 so you should be able to run "telnet hostname 2201" and get "connected" or something similar. Regards, Stefan From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 12:25:39 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:25:39 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError In-Reply-To: <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:22, J.A.Aylward wrote: > Hi Ben, > thanks for your help. > > Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell if bbackupd > can connect? Your logs? /var/log/box if you followed the instructions to the letter. Or use netstat. > > We are behind a firewall, but I don't think it's in the way. > It blocks UDP traffic, but tcp is ok > > Yes I'm running both bbackupd and bbackupquery as root > > I haven't got tcpdump installed, but can do so if needed. What does telnet hostname 2201 do, where hostname is the server's name from /etc/box/bbackupd.conf? Ben > > Ben Summers wrote: >> >> * Can bbackupd connect, or is it just bbackupquery? >> >> * Are you running bbackupd and bbackupquery under the same user? >> >> * Is there a firewall in the way? >> >> * Does using tcpdump to see what's on the wire help? >> >> Ben >> >> >> >> >> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:01, J.A.Aylward wrote: >> >>> Hi again ! >>> >>> Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? >>> >>> bbackupd and bbstored are both running >>> Certificates are in the correct place (I think) >>> >>> I typed: bbackupctl sync >>> and received: >>> >>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>> Daemon configuration summary: >>> AutomaticBackup = true >>> UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds >>> MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds >>> MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds >>> Succeeded. >>> >>> Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: >>> bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit >>> >>> >>> Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and >>> contributors 2003-2006 >>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>> Connecting to store... >>> Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a network >>> issue between client and server, bad hostname, or server not >>> running.) (7/15) >>> >>> I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) >>> hostname is entered in full with the domain name? >>> >>> >>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Many thanks again >>> >>> Jamie Aylward >>> >>> --J.A.Aylward >>> IT Support/Web Team >>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>> 01392 264790 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> boxbackup mailing list >>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 12:32:13 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:32:13 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] local backups really slow In-Reply-To: <20060926230423.48c91890@dev.futz.org> References: <20060926230423.48c91890@dev.futz.org> Message-ID: Box Backup was intended to run over slow network connections, so I didn't bother spending much time optimising the protocol. It does send a lot of queries and blocks until they're answered, unlike rsync which streams. I'd like to address this in the forthcoming version, but in the meantime, that's a limitation. Anyway, this means that if you have lots of small times, latency really kills the transfer speed, even over loopback. If you're on a single processor, there are lots of context switches. However, if you're backing up multi-Gb files, I would expect it to be relatively close to rsync. Ben On 27 Sep 2006, at 04:04, wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to backup to a server running on the local machine to > set up a disk > I'm going to use at a remote site. I figured a local backup would > be much > faster than having to back up 40G of data over the net. However, > it's not > nearly as fast as I expected. It seems to only be going at about > 200K/s, which > is paltry in comparison to the M/s rates I see when doing local > rsyncs. The > src and destination drives are on different IDE busses. > > Does that seem really slow to those of you using box backup, maybe > over a > local lan? Might have have some real simple setting wrong? It's not > a slow > machine - Athalon 2G, with 2.5G of memory.. CPU usage (per top) is > running > about 10% user and 88% wait, and has been for several hours. The > client/server > addresses are on the loopback interface. > > Any ideas on why it's so slow, or how I could speed it up? > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 12:58:36 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (J.A.Aylward) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:58:36 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError In-Reply-To: References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: <451BB8EC.503@ex.ac.uk> Thanks for your pointer: Can bbackupd connect? No - I tried ssh -p 2201 - and the connection is refused. I've tried adding the hostname in the hosts.allow file and been trawling the web for help without luck yet - so if you know the answer I'd greatly appreciate it. Sorry to keep asking questions - I am slowly producing a list of how to install on Debian... Many thanks Jamie Aylward J.A.Aylward IT Support/Web Team School of Education and Lifelong Learning http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ 01392 264790 Ben Summers wrote: > > On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:22, J.A.Aylward wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> thanks for your help. >> >> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell if bbackupd can >> connect? > > Your logs? /var/log/box if you followed the instructions to the letter. > > Or use netstat. > >> >> We are behind a firewall, but I don't think it's in the way. >> It blocks UDP traffic, but tcp is ok >> >> Yes I'm running both bbackupd and bbackupquery as root >> >> I haven't got tcpdump installed, but can do so if needed. > > What does > > telnet hostname 2201 > > do, where hostname is the server's name from /etc/box/bbackupd.conf? > > Ben > > > >> >> Ben Summers wrote: >>> >>> * Can bbackupd connect, or is it just bbackupquery? >>> >>> * Are you running bbackupd and bbackupquery under the same user? >>> >>> * Is there a firewall in the way? >>> >>> * Does using tcpdump to see what's on the wire help? >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:01, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>> >>>> Hi again ! >>>> >>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? >>>> >>>> bbackupd and bbstored are both running >>>> Certificates are in the correct place (I think) >>>> >>>> I typed: bbackupctl sync >>>> and received: >>>> >>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>> Daemon configuration summary: >>>> AutomaticBackup = true >>>> UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds >>>> MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds >>>> MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds >>>> Succeeded. >>>> >>>> Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: >>>> bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit >>>> >>>> >>>> Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and contributors >>>> 2003-2006 >>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>> Connecting to store... >>>> Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a network issue >>>> between client and server, bad hostname, or server not running.) >>>> (7/15) >>>> >>>> I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) >>>> hostname is entered in full with the domain name? >>>> >>>> >>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Many thanks again >>>> >>>> Jamie Aylward >>>> >>>> --J.A.Aylward >>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>> 01392 264790 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> boxbackup mailing list >>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 13:01:00 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:01:00 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError In-Reply-To: <451BB8EC.503@ex.ac.uk> References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> <451BB8EC.503@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: <51285008-D863-4F2C-8F11-E2D569DC4CEE@fluffy.co.uk> Do netstat -an on the server, and see if anything is listening on 2201 on the expected address. On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:58, J.A.Aylward wrote: > Thanks for your pointer: > > Can bbackupd connect? > > No - I tried ssh -p 2201 - and the connection is refused. > > I've tried adding the hostname in the hosts.allow file > > and been trawling the web for help without luck yet - so if you > know the answer I'd greatly appreciate it. > > Sorry to keep asking questions - I am slowly producing a list of > how to install on Debian... > > Many thanks > > Jamie Aylward > > > J.A.Aylward > IT Support/Web Team > School of Education and Lifelong Learning > http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ > 01392 264790 > > > > > Ben Summers wrote: >> >> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:22, J.A.Aylward wrote: >> >>> Hi Ben, >>> thanks for your help. >>> >>> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell if bbackupd >>> can connect? >> >> Your logs? /var/log/box if you followed the instructions to the >> letter. >> >> Or use netstat. >> >>> >>> We are behind a firewall, but I don't think it's in the way. >>> It blocks UDP traffic, but tcp is ok >>> >>> Yes I'm running both bbackupd and bbackupquery as root >>> >>> I haven't got tcpdump installed, but can do so if needed. >> >> What does >> >> telnet hostname 2201 >> >> do, where hostname is the server's name from /etc/box/bbackupd.conf? >> >> Ben >> >> >> >>> >>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>> >>>> * Can bbackupd connect, or is it just bbackupquery? >>>> >>>> * Are you running bbackupd and bbackupquery under the same user? >>>> >>>> * Is there a firewall in the way? >>>> >>>> * Does using tcpdump to see what's on the wire help? >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:01, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi again ! >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? >>>>> >>>>> bbackupd and bbstored are both running >>>>> Certificates are in the correct place (I think) >>>>> >>>>> I typed: bbackupctl sync >>>>> and received: >>>>> >>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>> Daemon configuration summary: >>>>> AutomaticBackup = true >>>>> UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds >>>>> MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds >>>>> MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds >>>>> Succeeded. >>>>> >>>>> Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: >>>>> bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and >>>>> contributors 2003-2006 >>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>> Connecting to store... >>>>> Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a network >>>>> issue between client and server, bad hostname, or server not >>>>> running.) (7/15) >>>>> >>>>> I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) >>>>> hostname is entered in full with the domain name? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks again >>>>> >>>>> Jamie Aylward >>>>> >>>>> --J.A.Aylward >>>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>>> 01392 264790 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> boxbackup mailing list >>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 13:05:57 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (J.A.Aylward) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:05:57 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError In-Reply-To: <51285008-D863-4F2C-8F11-E2D569DC4CEE@fluffy.co.uk> References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> <451BB8EC.503@ex.ac.uk> <51285008-D863-4F2C-8F11-E2D569DC4CEE@fluffy.co.uk> Message-ID: <451BBAA5.7090108@ex.ac.uk> Hi Ben, I did: netstat -an | grep 2201 and got: tcp 0 0 127.0.1.1:2201 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN Jamie J.A.Aylward IT Support/Web Team School of Education and Lifelong Learning http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ 01392 264790 Ben Summers wrote: > > Do > > netstat -an > > on the server, and see if anything is listening on 2201 on the > expected address. > > > On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:58, J.A.Aylward wrote: > >> Thanks for your pointer: >> >> Can bbackupd connect? >> >> No - I tried ssh -p 2201 - and the connection is refused. >> >> I've tried adding the hostname in the hosts.allow file >> >> and been trawling the web for help without luck yet - so if you know >> the answer I'd greatly appreciate it. >> >> Sorry to keep asking questions - I am slowly producing a list of how >> to install on Debian... >> >> Many thanks >> >> Jamie Aylward >> >> >> J.A.Aylward >> IT Support/Web Team >> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >> 01392 264790 >> >> >> >> >> Ben Summers wrote: >>> >>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:22, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ben, >>>> thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell if bbackupd >>>> can connect? >>> >>> Your logs? /var/log/box if you followed the instructions to the letter. >>> >>> Or use netstat. >>> >>>> >>>> We are behind a firewall, but I don't think it's in the way. >>>> It blocks UDP traffic, but tcp is ok >>>> >>>> Yes I'm running both bbackupd and bbackupquery as root >>>> >>>> I haven't got tcpdump installed, but can do so if needed. >>> >>> What does >>> >>> telnet hostname 2201 >>> >>> do, where hostname is the server's name from /etc/box/bbackupd.conf? >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>>> >>>>> * Can bbackupd connect, or is it just bbackupquery? >>>>> >>>>> * Are you running bbackupd and bbackupquery under the same user? >>>>> >>>>> * Is there a firewall in the way? >>>>> >>>>> * Does using tcpdump to see what's on the wire help? >>>>> >>>>> Ben >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:01, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi again ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? >>>>>> >>>>>> bbackupd and bbstored are both running >>>>>> Certificates are in the correct place (I think) >>>>>> >>>>>> I typed: bbackupctl sync >>>>>> and received: >>>>>> >>>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>>> Daemon configuration summary: >>>>>> AutomaticBackup = true >>>>>> UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds >>>>>> MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds >>>>>> MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds >>>>>> Succeeded. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: >>>>>> bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and >>>>>> contributors 2003-2006 >>>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>>> Connecting to store... >>>>>> Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a network >>>>>> issue between client and server, bad hostname, or server not >>>>>> running.) (7/15) >>>>>> >>>>>> I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) >>>>>> hostname is entered in full with the domain name? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks again >>>>>> >>>>>> Jamie Aylward >>>>>> >>>>>> --J.A.Aylward >>>>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>>>> 01392 264790 >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> boxbackup mailing list >>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 13:12:15 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Stefan Norlin) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:12:15 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> <451BB8EC.503@ex.ac.uk> <51285008-D863-4F2C-8F11-E2D569DC4CEE@fluffy.co.uk> <451BBAA5.7090108@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001801c6e2f7$55db4230$1601060a@cs> > tcp 0 0 127.0.1.1:2201 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN Using localhost (127.0.0.1) is not very good if you want to connect from other hosts. What do you have for ListenAddresses in bbstored.conf? ListenAddresses = inet:0.0.0.0 is a good one. :) Regards, Stefan From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 13:14:25 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:14:25 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError In-Reply-To: <451BBAA5.7090108@ex.ac.uk> References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> <451BB8EC.503@ex.ac.uk> <51285008-D863-4F2C-8F11-E2D569DC4CEE@fluffy.co.uk> <451BBAA5.7090108@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: It looks like bbstored is listening on localhost to me, so the server won't be accepting connections from the outside world. Change the ListenAddresses in /etc/box/bbstored.conf and restart (kill and start it again). Try inet:0.0.0.0 , which depending on your OS, will listen on all addresses. Then make sure your clients are connecting to the external address of the server, not 127.0.1.1. Ben On 28 Sep 2006, at 13:05, J.A.Aylward wrote: > Hi Ben, > I did: > netstat -an | grep 2201 > and got: > > tcp 0 0 127.0.1.1:2201 0.0.0.0:* > LISTEN > > > Jamie > > J.A.Aylward > IT Support/Web Team > School of Education and Lifelong Learning > http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ > 01392 264790 > > > > > Ben Summers wrote: >> >> Do >> >> netstat -an >> >> on the server, and see if anything is listening on 2201 on the >> expected address. >> >> >> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:58, J.A.Aylward wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your pointer: >>> >>> Can bbackupd connect? >>> >>> No - I tried ssh -p 2201 - and the connection is refused. >>> >>> I've tried adding the hostname in the hosts.allow file >>> >>> and been trawling the web for help without luck yet - so if you >>> know the answer I'd greatly appreciate it. >>> >>> Sorry to keep asking questions - I am slowly producing a list of >>> how to install on Debian... >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Jamie Aylward >>> >>> >>> J.A.Aylward >>> IT Support/Web Team >>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>> 01392 264790 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>> >>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:22, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ben, >>>>> thanks for your help. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell if >>>>> bbackupd can connect? >>>> >>>> Your logs? /var/log/box if you followed the instructions to the >>>> letter. >>>> >>>> Or use netstat. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> We are behind a firewall, but I don't think it's in the way. >>>>> It blocks UDP traffic, but tcp is ok >>>>> >>>>> Yes I'm running both bbackupd and bbackupquery as root >>>>> >>>>> I haven't got tcpdump installed, but can do so if needed. >>>> >>>> What does >>>> >>>> telnet hostname 2201 >>>> >>>> do, where hostname is the server's name from /etc/box/ >>>> bbackupd.conf? >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> * Can bbackupd connect, or is it just bbackupquery? >>>>>> >>>>>> * Are you running bbackupd and bbackupquery under the same user? >>>>>> >>>>>> * Is there a firewall in the way? >>>>>> >>>>>> * Does using tcpdump to see what's on the wire help? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:01, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi again ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bbackupd and bbstored are both running >>>>>>> Certificates are in the correct place (I think) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I typed: bbackupctl sync >>>>>>> and received: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>>>> Daemon configuration summary: >>>>>>> AutomaticBackup = true >>>>>>> UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds >>>>>>> MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds >>>>>>> MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds >>>>>>> Succeeded. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: >>>>>>> bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and >>>>>>> contributors 2003-2006 >>>>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>>>> Connecting to store... >>>>>>> Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a network >>>>>>> issue between client and server, bad hostname, or server not >>>>>>> running.) (7/15) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) >>>>>>> hostname is entered in full with the domain name? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks again >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jamie Aylward >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --J.A.Aylward >>>>>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>>>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>>>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>>>>> 01392 264790 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> boxbackup mailing list >>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 13:24:04 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (J.A.Aylward) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:24:04 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError In-Reply-To: References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> <451BB8EC.503@ex.ac.uk> <51285008-D863-4F2C-8F11-E2D569DC4CEE@fluffy.co.uk> <451BBAA5.7090108@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: <451BBEE4.4000803@ex.ac.uk> Brilliant, thank you Stefan and Ben, I might be in business! If I'm in lazy mode, does the bbackupctl sync work immediately - or when it gets round to it? The bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit found things that were not there - but is at least working. Very many thanks again Jamie J.A.Aylward IT Support/Web Team School of Education and Lifelong Learning http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ 01392 264790 Ben Summers wrote: > > It looks like bbstored is listening on localhost to me, so the server > won't be accepting connections from the outside world. Change the > ListenAddresses in /etc/box/bbstored.conf and restart (kill and start > it again). Try inet:0.0.0.0 , which depending on your OS, will listen > on all addresses. > > Then make sure your clients are connecting to the external address of > the server, not 127.0.1.1. > > Ben > > > On 28 Sep 2006, at 13:05, J.A.Aylward wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> I did: >> netstat -an | grep 2201 >> and got: >> >> tcp 0 0 127.0.1.1:2201 0.0.0.0:* >> LISTEN >> >> >> Jamie >> >> J.A.Aylward >> IT Support/Web Team >> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >> 01392 264790 >> >> >> >> >> Ben Summers wrote: >>> >>> Do >>> >>> netstat -an >>> >>> on the server, and see if anything is listening on 2201 on the >>> expected address. >>> >>> >>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:58, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for your pointer: >>>> >>>> Can bbackupd connect? >>>> >>>> No - I tried ssh -p 2201 - and the connection is refused. >>>> >>>> I've tried adding the hostname in the hosts.allow file >>>> >>>> and been trawling the web for help without luck yet - so if you >>>> know the answer I'd greatly appreciate it. >>>> >>>> Sorry to keep asking questions - I am slowly producing a list of >>>> how to install on Debian... >>>> >>>> Many thanks >>>> >>>> Jamie Aylward >>>> >>>> >>>> J.A.Aylward >>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>> 01392 264790 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:22, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ben, >>>>>> thanks for your help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell if bbackupd >>>>>> can connect? >>>>> >>>>> Your logs? /var/log/box if you followed the instructions to the >>>>> letter. >>>>> >>>>> Or use netstat. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We are behind a firewall, but I don't think it's in the way. >>>>>> It blocks UDP traffic, but tcp is ok >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes I'm running both bbackupd and bbackupquery as root >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't got tcpdump installed, but can do so if needed. >>>>> >>>>> What does >>>>> >>>>> telnet hostname 2201 >>>>> >>>>> do, where hostname is the server's name from /etc/box/bbackupd.conf? >>>>> >>>>> Ben >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Can bbackupd connect, or is it just bbackupquery? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Are you running bbackupd and bbackupquery under the same user? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Is there a firewall in the way? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Does using tcpdump to see what's on the wire help? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:01, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi again ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bbackupd and bbstored are both running >>>>>>>> Certificates are in the correct place (I think) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I typed: bbackupctl sync >>>>>>>> and received: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>>>>> Daemon configuration summary: >>>>>>>> AutomaticBackup = true >>>>>>>> UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds >>>>>>>> MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds >>>>>>>> MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds >>>>>>>> Succeeded. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: >>>>>>>> bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and >>>>>>>> contributors 2003-2006 >>>>>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>>>>> Connecting to store... >>>>>>>> Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a network >>>>>>>> issue between client and server, bad hostname, or server not >>>>>>>> running.) (7/15) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) >>>>>>>> hostname is entered in full with the domain name? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many thanks again >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jamie Aylward >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --J.A.Aylward >>>>>>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>>>>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>>>>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>>>>>> 01392 264790 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> boxbackup mailing list >>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 13:38:09 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Ben Summers) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:38:09 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError In-Reply-To: <451BBEE4.4000803@ex.ac.uk> References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> <451BB8EC.503@ex.ac.uk> <51285008-D863-4F2C-8F11-E2D569DC4CEE@fluffy.co.uk> <451BBAA5.7090108@ex.ac.uk> <451BBEE4.4000803@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: You shouldn't use bbackupctl sync in lazy mode, just let bbackupd get on with things. Ben On 28 Sep 2006, at 13:24, J.A.Aylward wrote: > Brilliant, thank you Stefan and Ben, I might be in business! > > If I'm in lazy mode, > does the bbackupctl sync work immediately - or when it gets round > to it? > > The bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit found things that were not > there - but is at least working. > > Very many thanks again > > Jamie > > > J.A.Aylward > IT Support/Web Team > School of Education and Lifelong Learning > http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ > 01392 264790 > > > > > Ben Summers wrote: >> >> It looks like bbstored is listening on localhost to me, so the >> server won't be accepting connections from the outside world. >> Change the ListenAddresses in /etc/box/bbstored.conf and restart >> (kill and start it again). Try inet:0.0.0.0 , which depending on >> your OS, will listen on all addresses. >> >> Then make sure your clients are connecting to the external address >> of the server, not 127.0.1.1. >> >> Ben >> >> >> On 28 Sep 2006, at 13:05, J.A.Aylward wrote: >> >>> Hi Ben, >>> I did: >>> netstat -an | grep 2201 >>> and got: >>> >>> tcp 0 0 127.0.1.1:2201 >>> 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN >>> >>> >>> Jamie >>> >>> J.A.Aylward >>> IT Support/Web Team >>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>> 01392 264790 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>> >>>> Do >>>> >>>> netstat -an >>>> >>>> on the server, and see if anything is listening on 2201 on the >>>> expected address. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:58, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for your pointer: >>>>> >>>>> Can bbackupd connect? >>>>> >>>>> No - I tried ssh -p 2201 - and the connection is refused. >>>>> >>>>> I've tried adding the hostname in the hosts.allow file >>>>> >>>>> and been trawling the web for help without luck yet - so if you >>>>> know the answer I'd greatly appreciate it. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry to keep asking questions - I am slowly producing a list >>>>> of how to install on Debian... >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks >>>>> >>>>> Jamie Aylward >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> J.A.Aylward >>>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>>> 01392 264790 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:22, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Ben, >>>>>>> thanks for your help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell if >>>>>>> bbackupd can connect? >>>>>> >>>>>> Your logs? /var/log/box if you followed the instructions to >>>>>> the letter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Or use netstat. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are behind a firewall, but I don't think it's in the way. >>>>>>> It blocks UDP traffic, but tcp is ok >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes I'm running both bbackupd and bbackupquery as root >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't got tcpdump installed, but can do so if needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> What does >>>>>> >>>>>> telnet hostname 2201 >>>>>> >>>>>> do, where hostname is the server's name from /etc/box/ >>>>>> bbackupd.conf? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Can bbackupd connect, or is it just bbackupquery? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Are you running bbackupd and bbackupquery under the same >>>>>>>> user? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Is there a firewall in the way? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Does using tcpdump to see what's on the wire help? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:01, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi again ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bbackupd and bbstored are both running >>>>>>>>> Certificates are in the correct place (I think) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I typed: bbackupctl sync >>>>>>>>> and received: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>>>>>> Daemon configuration summary: >>>>>>>>> AutomaticBackup = true >>>>>>>>> UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds >>>>>>>>> MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds >>>>>>>>> MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds >>>>>>>>> Succeeded. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: >>>>>>>>> bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and >>>>>>>>> contributors 2003-2006 >>>>>>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>>>>>> Connecting to store... >>>>>>>>> Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a >>>>>>>>> network issue between client and server, bad hostname, or >>>>>>>>> server not running.) (7/15) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) >>>>>>>>> hostname is entered in full with the domain name? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks again >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jamie Aylward >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --J.A.Aylward >>>>>>>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>>>>>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>>>>>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>>>>>>> 01392 264790 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> boxbackup mailing list >>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Thu Sep 28 13:43:08 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (J.A.Aylward) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:43:08 +0100 Subject: [Box Backup] Help please with Exception: Connection SocketConnectError In-Reply-To: References: <451BAB98.2070601@ex.ac.uk> <451BB08B.3070506@ex.ac.uk> <451BB8EC.503@ex.ac.uk> <51285008-D863-4F2C-8F11-E2D569DC4CEE@fluffy.co.uk> <451BBAA5.7090108@ex.ac.uk> <451BBEE4.4000803@ex.ac.uk> Message-ID: <451BC35C.9080202@ex.ac.uk> Sorry - realized this a few minutes after I posted that as it was obvious that files were being uploaded. Thanks again for all your help. I'm going to set up a few more accounts, and add another machine to backup, then I'll post up my list of things needed for a Debian user, in case it helps someone else. Many thanks again Jamie J.A.Aylward IT Support/Web Team School of Education and Lifelong Learning http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ 01392 264790 Ben Summers wrote: > > You shouldn't use bbackupctl sync in lazy mode, just let bbackupd get > on with things. > > Ben > > > On 28 Sep 2006, at 13:24, J.A.Aylward wrote: > >> Brilliant, thank you Stefan and Ben, I might be in business! >> >> If I'm in lazy mode, >> does the bbackupctl sync work immediately - or when it gets round to >> it? >> >> The bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit found things that were not there >> - but is at least working. >> >> Very many thanks again >> >> Jamie >> >> >> J.A.Aylward >> IT Support/Web Team >> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >> 01392 264790 >> >> >> >> >> Ben Summers wrote: >>> >>> It looks like bbstored is listening on localhost to me, so the >>> server won't be accepting connections from the outside world. Change >>> the ListenAddresses in /etc/box/bbstored.conf and restart (kill and >>> start it again). Try inet:0.0.0.0 , which depending on your OS, will >>> listen on all addresses. >>> >>> Then make sure your clients are connecting to the external address >>> of the server, not 127.0.1.1. >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 13:05, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ben, >>>> I did: >>>> netstat -an | grep 2201 >>>> and got: >>>> >>>> tcp 0 0 127.0.1.1:2201 0.0.0.0:* >>>> LISTEN >>>> >>>> >>>> Jamie >>>> >>>> J.A.Aylward >>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>> 01392 264790 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Do >>>>> >>>>> netstat -an >>>>> >>>>> on the server, and see if anything is listening on 2201 on the >>>>> expected address. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:58, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your pointer: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can bbackupd connect? >>>>>> >>>>>> No - I tried ssh -p 2201 - and the connection is refused. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've tried adding the hostname in the hosts.allow file >>>>>> >>>>>> and been trawling the web for help without luck yet - so if you >>>>>> know the answer I'd greatly appreciate it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry to keep asking questions - I am slowly producing a list of >>>>>> how to install on Debian... >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Jamie Aylward >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> J.A.Aylward >>>>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>>>> 01392 264790 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:22, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Ben, >>>>>>>> thanks for your help. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how can I tell if >>>>>>>> bbackupd can connect? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your logs? /var/log/box if you followed the instructions to the >>>>>>> letter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or use netstat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We are behind a firewall, but I don't think it's in the way. >>>>>>>> It blocks UDP traffic, but tcp is ok >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes I'm running both bbackupd and bbackupquery as root >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't got tcpdump installed, but can do so if needed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What does >>>>>>> >>>>>>> telnet hostname 2201 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> do, where hostname is the server's name from >>>>>>> /etc/box/bbackupd.conf? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ben Summers wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Can bbackupd connect, or is it just bbackupquery? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Are you running bbackupd and bbackupquery under the same user? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Is there a firewall in the way? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Does using tcpdump to see what's on the wire help? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 28 Sep 2006, at 12:01, J.A.Aylward wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi again ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction with this please? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bbackupd and bbstored are both running >>>>>>>>>> Certificates are in the correct place (I think) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I typed: bbackupctl sync >>>>>>>>>> and received: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>>>>>>> Daemon configuration summary: >>>>>>>>>> AutomaticBackup = true >>>>>>>>>> UpdateStoreInterval = 3600 seconds >>>>>>>>>> MinimumFileAge = 21600 seconds >>>>>>>>>> MaxUploadWait = 86400 seconds >>>>>>>>>> Succeeded. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then to try to check that things were happening I typed: >>>>>>>>>> bbackupquery "compare -aq" quit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Box Backup Query Tool v_exported, (c) Ben Summers and >>>>>>>>>> contributors 2003-2006 >>>>>>>>>> Using configuration file /etc/box/bbackupd.conf >>>>>>>>>> Connecting to store... >>>>>>>>>> Exception: Connection SocketConnectError (Probably a network >>>>>>>>>> issue between client and server, bad hostname, or server not >>>>>>>>>> running.) (7/15) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I can ping the server, ssh to it, etc (in both directions) >>>>>>>>>> hostname is entered in full with the domain name? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jamie Aylward >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --J.A.Aylward >>>>>>>>>> IT Support/Web Team >>>>>>>>>> School of Education and Lifelong Learning >>>>>>>>>> http://www.education.ex.ac.uk/ >>>>>>>>>> 01392 264790 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> boxbackup mailing list >>>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> boxbackup mailing list >>> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >>> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 29 00:29:27 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Randall Svancara) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:29:27 -0700 Subject: [Box Backup] bbackupquery list file filtering Message-ID: <6fa5a6800609281629t25042557n688962d121131ade@mail.gmail.com> First of all, this is cool software and it is meeting my needs very nicely. I think you are on the right track to a robust backup up solution. I am using bbackupquery to search for files in /usr/bin. As you all well know, there can be a lot fo files in this directory. How can I search and sort in order to search for files using the list command. Thanks, Randall From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 29 00:39:46 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Scott) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:39:46 +1000 Subject: [Box Backup] bbackupquery list file filtering In-Reply-To: <6fa5a6800609281629t25042557n688962d121131ade@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007d01c6e357$62036f50$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> Hi Randall all available commands are listed in bbackupquery when you type help (Name of command) The easiest way that I have found is to use bbackupquery in conjunction with grep. Ie. Bbackupquery "list -dots" quit | grep something Be aware that grep will hide any error messages. -----Original Message----- From: boxbackup-admin at fluffy.co.uk [mailto:boxbackup-admin at fluffy.co.uk] On Behalf Of Randall Svancara Sent: Friday, 29 September 2006 9:29 AM To: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Subject: [Box Backup] bbackupquery list file filtering First of all, this is cool software and it is meeting my needs very nicely. I think you are on the right track to a robust backup up solution. I am using bbackupquery to search for files in /usr/bin. As you all well know, there can be a lot fo files in this directory. How can I search and sort in order to search for files using the list command. Thanks, Randall _______________________________________________ boxbackup mailing list boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 29 00:47:04 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Randall Svancara) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:47:04 -0700 Subject: [Box Backup] bbackupquery list file filtering In-Reply-To: <007d01c6e357$62036f50$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> References: <6fa5a6800609281629t25042557n688962d121131ade@mail.gmail.com> <007d01c6e357$62036f50$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> Message-ID: <6fa5a6800609281647x65bc33e0q1385b2d7e04cd41e@mail.gmail.com> Sweet, thanks On 9/28/06, Scott wrote: > Hi Randall all available commands are listed in bbackupquery when you type > help (Name of command) > > The easiest way that I have found is to use bbackupquery in conjunction with > grep. Ie. > > Bbackupquery "list -dots" quit | grep something > > Be aware that grep will hide any error messages. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boxbackup-admin at fluffy.co.uk [mailto:boxbackup-admin at fluffy.co.uk] On > Behalf Of Randall Svancara > Sent: Friday, 29 September 2006 9:29 AM > To: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > Subject: [Box Backup] bbackupquery list file filtering > > First of all, this is cool software and it is meeting my needs very > nicely. I think you are on the right track to a robust backup up > solution. > > I am using bbackupquery to search for files in /usr/bin. As you all > well know, there can be a lot fo files in this directory. How can I > search and sort in order to search for files using the list command. > > > Thanks, > > Randall > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 29 06:44:20 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Scott) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:44:20 +1000 Subject: [Box Backup] Strange Request In-Reply-To: <8DB8DA51-FF9E-4999-8985-9CB7A668CE3B@fluffy.co.uk> Message-ID: <00ae01c6e38a$4f96e940$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> I should explain my idea first then it may not seem so out there... In a situation where you have lots of windows clients on a LAN connecting to a [TRUSTED] single Linux box this box then connects to an external [UNTRUSTED] Source. ie. (WINDOZE LAN) -> (LOCAL TRUSTED SERVER) ---> (UNTRUSTED OFFSITE STORE) This enables fast restoration when required over the LAN with the redundancy of an offsite store. However it does seem quite pointless to double encrypt the data from the windows client which would mean tracking multiple keys etc. -----Original Message----- From: boxbackup-admin at fluffy.co.uk [mailto:boxbackup-admin at fluffy.co.uk] On Behalf Of Ben Summers Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 6:38 PM To: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Subject: Re: [Box Backup] Strange Request And why would you need to remove encryption? Would you want to remove compression too? And even if you did that, you still wouldn't get a filesystem which looks like the original, because it'll all be encapsulated in the 'strange' way Box Backup does things. Ben On 27 Sep 2006, at 23:22, Scott wrote: > > I would prefer to keep the ease of management and all the features > that bb > already has. > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: boxbackup-admin at fluffy.co.uk [mailto:boxbackup- > admin at fluffy.co.uk] On > Behalf Of Ben Summers > Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 2:02 AM > To: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Box Backup] Strange Request > > > Why would you want to do that? > > If you want no encryption, use something like rsync, as Martin > suggests. > > Ben > > > > On 27 Sep 2006, at 07:02, Scott wrote: > >> Hi All, >> I have a strange request. How hard would it be to modify bb in such >> a way that the on-disk encryption is removed. >> >> Thanks. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> boxbackup mailing list >> boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk >> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup > > _______________________________________________ > boxbackup mailing list > boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk > http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup _______________________________________________ boxbackup mailing list boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 29 07:15:45 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Stefan Norlin) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:15:45 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] Strange Request References: <00ae01c6e38a$4f96e940$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> Message-ID: <00bb01c6e38e$b2dd3320$e901050a@stenorvaio> > ie. (WINDOZE LAN) -> (LOCAL TRUSTED SERVER) ---> (UNTRUSTED OFFSITE STORE) Do you mean that the UNTRUSTED STORE is a backup of a box backup store on the TRUSTED SERVER? If yes, then you can rsync TRUSTED -> UNTRUSTED once a day. We have a box store (around 150 GB) to which 20 different clients connect during a nightly backup window and then during the day we rsync the thing (changes) on to a remote server. In the end we have two identical box backup installations with the same data and if the primary "disappears" we can simply replace it with the secondary. Regards, Stefan From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 29 18:18:22 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Jamuel P. Starkey) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Box Backup] Server Storage Compressed or Not In-Reply-To: <00bb01c6e38e$b2dd3320$e901050a@stenorvaio> References: <00ae01c6e38a$4f96e940$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> <00bb01c6e38e$b2dd3320$e901050a@stenorvaio> Message-ID: <6927.64.81.249.73.1159550302.squirrel@webmail.gcisys.com> I think I recall reading that during the transmission process from the backup client to the server store the process was to compress and then encrypt the data. Is that the correct order of operation? I'd imageine that to be the case so that when the data is actually written to the server store array does it continue to be compressed. Therefore I wouldn't think that there would be any way of determining from the server side the actual uncompressed size of the data--or is that too much information that the server "shouldn't" be able to glean unless it had the clients FE key. Finally can anyone describe the compression method used on the data? TIA JPS From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 29 18:52:51 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (Stefan Norlin) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:52:51 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] Server Storage Compressed or Not References: <00ae01c6e38a$4f96e940$0e0a640a@scottbedf9e644> <00bb01c6e38e$b2dd3320$e901050a@stenorvaio> <6927.64.81.249.73.1159550302.squirrel@webmail.gcisys.com> Message-ID: <002701c6e3f0$15c13e80$e901050a@stenorvaio> >I think I recall reading that during the transmission process from the >backup client to the server store the process was to compress and then > encrypt the data. Is that the correct order of operation? I'd imageine > that to be the case so that when the data is actually written to the > server > store array does it continue to be compressed. Therefore I wouldn't think > that there would be any way of determining from the server side the > actual uncompressed size of the data--or is that too much information that > the server "shouldn't" be able to glean unless it had the clients FE key. > Finally can anyone describe the compression method used on the data? The data in the store is compressed and it is not possible to know the original size since it it not stored with the file. I have once mentioned I would like this in order to be able to perform exact calculations and I think Ben mentioned the idea was that the it would reveal more or less sensitive info about the file. It is zlib that is used to it should be about the same method as gzip uses? Regards, Stefan From boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk Fri Sep 29 15:34:31 2006 From: boxbackup at fluffy.co.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_Lundstr=F6m?=) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:34:31 +0200 Subject: [Box Backup] Boxi + bbackup problem Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-1--1067314280 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi, I've been talking with Chris Wilson on the mail and he suggested that =20= I should write here instead, because my problem was no longer an boxi =20= problem. I am using Boxi an svn snapshot from 0925 which Chris send me on =20 Windows XP SP2 with an server on OpenBSD 3.9-release using boxbackup =20 0.10 on VMware Player (they are on the same machine, an laptop with =20 1GB RAM, 512MB allocated to OpenBSD) I searched the mailinglist for error 123 and I come up with some hits =20= about an invalid name. But as you can see in my config, my backup-=20 path is not what bbackupd is claiming it is. I've tried with bbackupquery and it works. When I ran make test when installing box backup I got some errors, =20 don't know if these are relevant but here they are: storebackupfix: FAILED: 2 test failed (complete info, if requested) This is the output I get from bbackupd (the boxi cmd.exe window): Opening connection to server boxbackup.local... Send Version(0x1) Receive Version(0x1) Send Login(0x1,0x0) Receive LoginConfirmed(0x41e6ec3611d00,0x1d,0x200000,0x233200) Connection made, login successful Send ListDirectory(0x1,0x2,0xc,false) Receive Success(0x1) Receiving stream, size 144 Send CreateDirectory(0x1,0x41df393c0ff00,"3c940") Sending stream, size 49 Receive Success(0x18) Failed to open '\mnt_b4a67f6b': error 123 Send SetClientStoreMarker(0x41e6eea3dd800) Receive Success(0x41e6eea3dd800) Send Finished() Receive Finished() My bbackupd.conf is: # This Box Backup configuration file was written by Boxi # This file is automatically generated. Do not edit by hand! StoreHostname =3D boxbackup.local AccountNumber =3D 0x1 KeysFile =3D C:\Documents and Settings\Simon\Skrivbord\Kopia av boxi=20 \bbackupd\1-FileEncKeys.raw CertificateFile =3D C:\Documents and Settings\Simon\Skrivbord\Kopia av =20= boxi\bbackupd\1-cert.pem PrivateKeyFile =3D C:\Documents and Settings\Simon\Skrivbord\Kopia av =20= boxi\bbackupd\1-key.pem TrustedCAsFile =3D C:\Documents and Settings\Simon\Skrivbord\Kopia av =20= boxi\bbackupd\serverCA.pem DataDirectory =3D C:\Documents and Settings\Simon\Skrivbord\Kopia av =20 boxi\var CommandSocket =3D C:\Documents and Settings\Simon\Skrivbord\Kopia av =20 boxi\var\bbackupd.sock UpdateStoreInterval =3D 3600 MinimumFileAge =3D 21600 MaxUploadWait =3D 86400 FileTrackingSizeThreshold =3D 65535 DiffingUploadSizeThreshold =3D 8192 MaximumDiffingTime =3D 20 MaxFileTimeInFuture =3D 0 ExtendedLogging =3D yes AutomaticBackup =3D no Server { PidFile =3D C:\Documents and Settings\Simon\Skrivbord\Kopia av = boxi\var=20 \bbackupd.pid } BackupLocations { backup { Path =3D C:\backup } } - Simon Lundstr=F6m --=20 "Another important factor is the level of competence among =20 administrators. Most of those who call themselves UNIX admins are in complete control =20= of ports, permissions, memorystacks and other vital components in the =20 installation. Unfortunately, most Windows admins don't even know what these terms =20 mean." - Kaja Narum, VP Trend Micro Sweden P.S. If this message turns up twice, I'm sorry. I mailed it before I =20 got the "OK, you're on the mailing list" from mailman. 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